tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post2521737320717196743..comments2023-10-25T03:35:52.205-04:00Comments on Just A Thought: Fighting with Traditional WeaponsMichelehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04317845403611730397noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-35020350763870759622009-03-13T07:43:00.000-04:002009-03-13T07:43:00.000-04:00elizasmom: Thanks for joining the discussion. We d...elizasmom: Thanks for joining the discussion. We discourage a "death grip" on the bo because it limits the movement. Okinawa Kobudo has thirteen bo kata. Hand transitions are common...single hand change, double hand change,or adjusting hand position. In many of our kata, the lead hand is center of the bo with an over-rotated grip. In Okinawa Kenpo, the bo rests on the outside of elbow. Thanks again for your comments.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04317845403611730397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-24693284949352897382009-03-10T22:35:00.000-04:002009-03-10T22:35:00.000-04:00Interesting discussion — I'm a bit late to the par...Interesting discussion — I'm a bit late to the party, but in my style, we use the one-thirds rule too, and we have the mixed grip as a default. One of the things I used to teach students when I was our dojo's bo instructor was not to strangle the bo — a lot of the beginners hold on so tightly that they reduce their range of motion because they're so nervous about dropping the thing. It also enabled us to do what I think John describes, which is that you are able to slide hands closer together for certain strikes to increase speed. As he noted, not appropriate for everything, but there are certain techniques where we found it quite helpful.elizasmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450026334750091569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-89452166022435553922009-03-09T13:04:00.000-04:002009-03-09T13:04:00.000-04:00Glad to be of service :-)I also had a play with th...Glad to be of service :-)<BR/><BR/>I also had a play with the bo(ng) on Saturday and tried mixing the hand positions up a bit. Very useful!Littlefairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246280876114510291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-57950475311278061622009-03-07T08:43:00.000-05:002009-03-07T08:43:00.000-05:00Littlefair: Thank you for the video link and your...Littlefair: Thank you for the video link and your comments.<BR/><BR/>This morning, I got my husband up off the chair and told him to grab a bo. I wanted to look at my on guard position with the bo (front hand palm up...back hand palm down). <BR/><BR/>In Okinawa Kenpo, the bo is over-rotated at the last six inches of the strike. By holding the bo with my front hand palm up, I am able to rotate the bo. At the completion of a strike, my hands are both palm down. <BR/><BR/>However, my husband's on guard position was different. He held the bo with both palms facing down. His front hand was in a reverse grip. He was holding the bo in thirds. He worked inside to attack the hands and head.<BR/><BR/>My husband felt the reverse grip was stronger. Using a mixed grip, I felt like I have control of both ends of the bo. We both were adjusting our hands front and back. <BR/><BR/>During the seminar I discussed in the post, the gear was heavy. The thick padded gloves made the intricate hand changes with the bo impossible. <BR/><BR/>It looks like there are benefits to both. In the kata Ko Bo, the bo is held in thirds and both grips are evident in the kata.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the question. It started of my day with a excellent discussion on bo technique! :)Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04317845403611730397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-23472396330097345942009-03-07T07:22:00.000-05:002009-03-07T07:22:00.000-05:00I'm intereted to hear that you used mixed grip-pal...I'm intereted to hear that you used mixed grip-palm up / palm down. I always manipulate the bong (bo) with both palms down. The only change I make is direction: forward or back or up and down.<BR/><BR/>Was it noticeably easier for you?<BR/><BR/>Interesting (if somewhat tangential) link: <BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYR-M4OKIpMLittlefairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246280876114510291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-13196792531492903082009-03-01T20:02:00.000-05:002009-03-01T20:02:00.000-05:00Rick: Thanks for sharing the link.Rick: Thanks for sharing the link.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04317845403611730397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-43658498980465158942009-03-01T20:01:00.000-05:002009-03-01T20:01:00.000-05:00It was mainly bo versus bo or bo versus tunfa. The...It was mainly bo versus bo or bo versus tunfa. The tunfa were lightly padded...usually with pipe insulation to soften the blow. The sai were more difficult to pad but I do recall someone trying it. <BR/><BR/>In most of our bo kata, the lead hand is at the center of the bo. This allows for use of the maximum range of the weapon. In the kata Ko Bo, the hands are held in thirds which feels like a more natural sparring grip.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04317845403611730397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-4677800174476779862009-03-01T19:56:00.000-05:002009-03-01T19:56:00.000-05:00You may find this of interest:http://wuswordprojec...You may find this of interest:<BR/><BR/>http://wuswordproject.com/Rick Matzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09699550034693340637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5657543360198531381.post-20274995044194717152009-03-01T17:57:00.000-05:002009-03-01T17:57:00.000-05:00Freestyle with a bo. Interesting. Supposedly the o...Freestyle with a bo. Interesting. Supposedly the opponent's lead hand is the target of opportunity in a bo fight. You mentioned holding the bo in thirds, which is the way I was taught for kata. Somebody once showed me this trick where if you move the hands in a bit closer, you can gain some speed with certain strikes. It works, but there's obviously a downside to using that same manuver with a cross-block.<BR/><BR/>Were there any bouts with other weapons? I'm wondering if techniques for mixed matches have been worked out (sai vs tonfa, etc).John Vesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04434740196022601040noreply@blogger.com